A befitting rebuttal to Sister Prema, the Superior General of Missionaries of Charity
31/03/2009 12:00:13  Dr Mrs Hilda Raja



AUTHOR IS A SENIOR CHRISTIAN CITIZEN




 

The new Superior General of the Missionaries of Charity (MoC)Sr.Mary Prema made two revelations-that religious conversion-‘is God’s work. That-if she received divine inspiration she would go to Kandhamal.

 

 

The first one of describing conversions as God’s work is the usual cliché which comes handy to all those involved in conversion. Conversion is to Christianity what Jehad is to Islam.

 

 

Sr Prema further explained that, ‘Every human being has the right to believe. Each person is born with dignity. Religious conversion is God’s work’. The contradictions galore within the two sentences are glaring. If every person has the right to believe then where is the need to initiate that person to something new and strange and in something in which that person is not born in? Should one god be exorcised out of the person and another god be installed to uphold the dignity with which this person was born with? This is actually what conversion is all about. Why this rupturing of the person from what he/she was .So what Sr Prema really means is that every person has a right to be converted and hence the right of the person to believe is conditioned and restricted to only believing in the god in whom Sr Prema and her whole church believes in. This is what Sr Prema articulated when she so naively asserted that every person has a right to believe and every person is born with dignity. That this god is only 2000 years old and somehow seems to be always in the company of those who invade the land of others is another dimension which needs a longer treatise.

 

 

If conversion is God’s work then whose work is re-conversion?  Sr Prema-the Superior General of the MoC and the whole armies of Christian missionaries involved in conversion has failed this god miserably-because their god has failed them. If conversion is God’s work he seems to be rather slow and inefficient. The Catholic Church has the biggest army of nuns and priests and the Christian evangelical churches have their own brand of evangelists, the Southern Baptists alone as a group has nearly 100,000 career missionaries in North India. Yet this God seem to be hardly having an impact. This god also seem to be scared-does not direct their efforts to the Islamic countries. Is He afraid of terrorists? It is the simple unarmed, poverty stricken tribals and passive Hindus that this God and his divine inspired missionaries target at. And yet not so easy given the enormous funds that flow and the armies at the disposal of this god he had to give divine inspiration to a Christian agency to massacre an unarmed poor swamiji whom he found a great hurdle to spread his kingdom.

 

 

Sr Prema has unwittingly exposed the bluff of the Congress and the UPA leaders. We are told that conversion is not taking place. Conversion takes different forms-globally, it is disguised as a military coup, violence and very often a deception of service and development is the sheen given to this violent conversion. Yes conversion is violence wrought on a person-to deprive the person of his/her dignity which according to Sr Prema every person is born with-to tear the person off his affinity, his religious heritage and made him/her an alien is a psychological bleeding to death. Christianity and conversion are two sides of the same coin. Where ever Christianity went it was bloodshed-destruction, and a hidden agenda of political power, economic aggrandizement, and pauperization of the victims. In the words of the Kenyatta (the Kenyan freedom fighter) ‘when the missionaries came they had the Bible and we had the land. They said, ‘Let us pray,’ We closed our eyes, when we opened them, they had our lands and we had the Bible’. This is true not only in Africa but all over the globe. Those countries which broke away from the stranglehold of Vatican became progressive-like Canada, Australia, England but those colonized by the catholic powers like Spain, Portugal Mexico, Argentina, Cuba, Italy are mired in military rule and church tyranny. Christianity today likes to be seen as a peace loving, compassionate religion of brotherhood. But far from it-the religion was born in blood and grew in bloodshed. Economic and political powers are its hidden agenda covered with service organizations, education institutions etc.

 

 

May be Sr Prema is too naïve to understand and she as all nuns and priests are ignorant of church history. These nuns and priests are brainwashed into this service and love of the poor mission. Many soon realize but then it is too late for them especially in India to be courageous to act and pull out. They become like voices in the wilderness and the church is too powerful an organization to fight against by ordinary innocent and truthful persons.

 

 

This brings me to Sr Prema’s pious wish-that she would visit Kandhamal if she receives ‘divine inspiration’ and she would definitely intervene. One wonder what intervention is she talking about-intervene for whom and with whom? Sr Prema would do a greater service if she visited the ex nun Jesme in Kerala and listened to her tale of sexual harassment within the convent-how she was betrayed by her own and even had to submit herself to priests to be stripped naked. This is nothing new and not a singular case, but happenings that have been on for ages-these sexual escapades –including rape and murder have been happenings within the confines of the convents and the church compound. Only when a nun is raped outside these confines then all hell breaks loose. Sr Prema could direct her divine inspired mission to empathize with Sr Jesmy and many like her and intervene with the church authorities. Sr Prema the Superior General of the MoC should be aware that nuns are on contraceptives, nuns have begotten children of bishops and priests-whole dioceses have been sold in the USA to pay the compensation for the sexual violation on alter boys by priests.

 

 

A Jesuit province in the USA has declared itself insolvent because it cannot garner the huge funds to pay the compensation to the sexual victims by its perpetrators-the priests. Be it in India or in other parts of the world all this pales into nothing- only Kandhamal occupies and covers the whole vision of the pious Christians and Sr Prema is no exception.  I suggest that she first visit the Ashram of Swami Lakshmanada and soothe the terror stricken children in whose presence the 84 year Swamiji was brutally butchered. Three nuns who were with him were also killed. Will Sr Prema intervene with those murderers and see that justice is done?

 

 

One last request, Sr Prema and her MoC work for the poor, she asaserts-then why should the money meant for the  poor of this country find its way to the confers of Rome? It is very difficult to divest conversion and money. Are the accounts of the MoC being audited? If not why? Why should the lands and the church properties be exempted from tax and auditing? This is something anti-national. Money cannot change its value simply because it is held in the hands of a particular community-All monies must be accounted for. Is it not strange that those working in Minority Education institutions and drawing the UGC pay scales are Income tax assesses but the priests and the nuns working in the same institutions are exempted from paying Income tax. They too draw the same salaries-if not more for less work-they too hold individual bank accounts and they too draw their pensions till their death-all from the taxpayers monies. Why should they be exempted from paying the Income tax? This is just one area to show that the workings of the poor of which Sr Prema and all missionaries are engaged and other service organizations are a big money spinning business.

 

 

A special vocabulary must be coded to understand the language of the Christians. Power is sugar coated and called service. Forgiveness is easily extended to those who hurt them-to show how compassionate they are. But they refuse to stop hurting others-they refuse to stop dehumanizing the tribals and the poor. Why don’t they leave the poor alone? If in spite of  the enormous funds which have flowed and are flowing  from abroad combined with  the government’s Five Year Plans and a globally  powerful God by  their side the missionaries are not able to diminish  poverty, to reduce hunger and assetlessness, then is it not time to pause take stock of  what is fundamentally wrong? Who is swindling whom? Why are the poor kept in poverty? Why should the poor continue to be poor, why should backwardness be ever growing? Account for the work that has been so far carried on and stop the pauperization and the plunder of this country and its poor. Should we wait for Sr Prema and the likes of her for divine inspiration to be just logical and sensible?

 

 

Tailpiece-

 

Even the Pope has lost his ability to pray that he has now assigned the Archbishop of Gawhati to script prayers for him! The Catholic Church needs prayer scripters- for it is unable to turn the hearts and souls of its followers to that spirit within themselves and seek redemption and justice.

 

Dr Mrs Hilda Raja,
Vadodara

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A
29/04/2009 23:12:24
The cult of chritianity
The cult of christianity has dumped the festival "Easter", because originally it was a festival of Pagan Romans in the glory of the Goddess Eostre. Now they are using "Pascha" in place of "Easter". Most of the festivals of this cult have been stolen from the Pagan Europeans, the first victims of this vile cult. 5
SeaLion
08/04/2009 06:13:25
CHRISTIAN LOVE AT DISPLAY
Sister Prematha and Saint Sonia Maino can indulge in the CHRISTIAN LOVE WE WOULD WELCOME THAT:

"4 shot, 1 dead at Christian retreat in California
Police: Gunman is likely one of those hospitalized after shooting
BREAKING NEWS

updated 2:24 a.m. ET April 8, 2009
TEMECULA, Calif. - Authorities said late on Tuesday that at least four people had been shot and one killed at a Korean Christian retreat in Southern California.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30100435/
5
pvas
08/04/2009 04:14:17
De-Baptism Certificates now available
More than 100,000 Britons have recently downloaded "certificates of de-baptism" from the Internet to renounce their Christian faith.

The initiative launched by a group called the National Secular Society (NSS) follows atheist campaigns here and elsewhere, including a London bus poster which triggered protests by proclaiming "There's probably no God."

"We now produce a certificate on parchment and we have sold 1,500 units at three pounds (4.35 dollars, 3.20 euros) a pop," said NSS president Terry Sanderson, 58.

John Hunt, a 58-year-old from London and one of the first to try to be "de-baptised," held that he was too young to make any decision when he was christened at five months old.

The male nurse said he approached the Church of England to ask it to remove his name. "They said they had sought legal advice and that I should place an announcement in the London Gazette," said Hunt, referring to one of the official journals of record of the British government.

So that's what he did -- his notice of renouncement was published in the Gazette in May 2008 and other Britons have followed suit.

Michael Evans, 66, branded baptising children as "a form of child abuse" -- and said that when he complained to the church where he was christened he was told to contact the European Court of Human Rights...

[please go to the link below to read the remainder of the article.]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090330/ts_afp/lifestylebritainreligionatheismfeature

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Here's a perfect opportunity for Indian christians to also de-baptise themselves and formally relinquish christianity once in for all. I know many christians who have already left the faith from spiritual point of view, and do not follow or endorse christianity. Unfortunately, they continue to be known as christians because they have been baptised involuntarily as infants. They can now leave christianity formally and come back to their original roots-Sanatana Dharma. 5
A
08/04/2009 02:02:16
History of the Cult of Christianity
The cult of Christianity (Evangelical Christianity can be only described as a cult, not a religion) grew by absorbing Pagan traditions of Pagan Europe. Christmas is the stolen Pagan festival of Winter Solstice. Then when it had sufficient followers, this cult turned Europe into pure hell. Read about the history of this cult, and its victims, on all continents -

http://freetruth.50webs.org/ 5
k.v.raghavan
06/04/2009 23:29:34
conversion speech by Sr.Prema
I am really surprised and puzzled to read the article. The statement made by so called "Mother superior" is baffling. First of all, who do she want to convert to her religion? The conversion itself bares the truth that there is lack of understanding of religon. Here an incident will be of importance and will not be out of place. When an European after studying Gita Bhashyam (commentary on Bhagavad Gita), asked the Sankaracharya of Sringeri, whether he (the european) can convert to Hinduism? H.H.the sankaracharya replied in negative and search for seers in his own religion. He also told the same european, that merely sprinkling of water and changing the name will not make a person convert to other religion. Those who do not beleive in Hindu tenets are called Bharatiyas and no question of any other religion apart from hinduism exists. The european was not converted to Hinduism. Probably, Sr.Prema should also be educated to look within, and read the works of H.H.the Sankaracharya of Sringeri on religion and conversion. 5
GSK Menon
05/04/2009 02:23:36
Sr.Prema's antics
Conversion has been the obsession of these corpse-god followers. It is a bankrupt religion surviving by sheer imitation and borrowing from other faiths and dogmas.Even the supposed birthday of the corpse-god is borrowed from a Roman festival. 5
Roy
03/04/2009 20:46:22
Leave God alone
God has nothing to do with Catholics. Religion is a business for Catholic Church beaurocracy. Money making in the name of God. Brain wash the believers to think that they are just sheep (no brain needed) they will be guided by Sheppards (the priests-bishop-cardinal-pope etc.). 10% of your income+contribution every week+for baptism, marriage, burial etc etc. You should not save money. Church will do that so that bishop will live in palace use devadasies (nuns) for their service. Jesus never would not have allowed this expolitation. There is no spiritucality eventhough all discussion is about spirituality. Fear is the majar content. God needs mediator! He is paid for every service you do. There is no clarity in the whole concept. No clear explantion given for the choice of cross as holy. Why is sin remaining after Jesus took away every sin? Why eat jusus's body and drink his blood? Why God did not save his innocent son from cruel punishment?
Answers are not clear the explanations are just jargons of repeated meaningless words. 5
Franklin Joseph
01/04/2009 09:08:36
Prethams
It it prema or pretham/theyyam? These prethams beg Hindu business houses and convert Hindus! Hey idiot Hindus, next time thrash the shit out of them guys... 5
SeaLion
01/04/2009 07:12:31
AND THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE
WHO ARE DEMENTED ENOUGH TO BE POISONED AND CONVERTED:
A toddler whose remains were found inside a suitcase in Philadelphia this spring was starved to death by members of a religious cult, including his mother, in part because he refused to say "amen" after meals, police said.

Ria Ramkissoon, the mother of Javon Thompson, was charged Sunday with first-degree murder in the boy's death, and Baltimore police said Monday that three other members of a group called 1 Mind Ministries have also been charged with first-degree murder. Police and Ramkissoon's family say the group is a cult.

Members did not seek medical care for Javon when he stopped breathing, and the boy died in his mother's arms, according to court documents that described police interviews with a confidential informant and two children. He would have been about 15 months old when police say adults stopped feeding him in December 2006.

Ramkissoon, 21, was being held Monday in the psychiatric ward of Baltimore's Central Booking and Intake Center, and a bail review was postponed until Tuesday. Her public defender declined comment.

The three other people charged in Javon's death - Queen Antoinette, 40, also known as Toni Ellsberry or Toni Sloan; Marcus Cobbs, 21; and Trevia Williams, who turns 21 on Tuesday - were already in custody. They were arrested in May in New York City on warrants charging them with failure to appear in court in Baltimore. Those charges stemmed from a scuffle with police in a child custody dispute.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/08/12/national/main4343113.shtml?source=related_story
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SeaLion
01/04/2009 07:10:35
THIS IS WHAT THESE
SELF DIVINE MOTHERS AND FATHERS DO WITH DIVINE INSPIRATION:
A fundamentalist church pastor had sex with two of his teenage daughters to educate them on how to be good wives, a South Australian court has heard.
The 54-year-old man, who cannot be named, was today sentenced in the SA District Court to eight and a half years jail after pleading guilty to seven counts each of incest and unlawful sexual intercourse.
The court heard that the man had sex with his daughters for nearly a decade from 1991 when they were aged 13 and 15 at the family property.
The sex took place at various locations including in a shearer's shed, a paddock, on the back of a ute and, on one occasion, at the girls' grandparents house.
The man told the court the sex was not about fulfilling his desires but about teaching his daughters how to behave for their husbands when they eventually married, as dictated in scripture.
In sentencing, Judge David Lovell said the misrepresentation of scripture used to justify the abuse of the girls "defied belief", and that he had "hypocritically betrayed" his religion and principles.
"You said the acts were about learning about sex rather than engaging in the acts of sex," Judge Lovell said.
"I do not accept that.
"You treated your daughters as your property ... using them to satisfy and gratify your sexual urges."
Judge Lovell gave full credit for the man's guilty pleas, saying he was genuinely remorseful and had a good chance of rehabilitation as his wife and the church remained supportive.
The man will be eligible for parole in four years.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/pastor-had-sex-with-daughters/2007/08/30/1188067266454.html
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SeaLion
01/04/2009 07:06:25
AND THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE
WHERE THESE "DIVINE LOVERS" GO:
For four hundred years--from the first Spanish assaults against the Arawak people of Hispaniola in the 1490s to the U.S. Army's massacre of Sioux Indians at Wounded Knee in the 1890s--the indigenous inhabitants of North and South America endured an unending firestorm of violence. During that time the native population of the Western Hemisphere declined by as many as 100 million people. Indeed, as historian David E. Stannard argues in this stunning new book, the European and white American destruction of the native peoples of the Americas was the most massive act of genocide in the history of the world.
Stannard begins with a portrait of the enormous richness and diversity of life in the Americas prior to Columbus's fateful voyage in 1492. He then follows the path of genocide from the Indies to Mexico and Central and South America, then north to Florida, Virginia, and New England, and finally out across the Great Plains and Southwest to California and the North Pacific Coast. Stannard reveals that wherever Europeans or white Americans went, the native people were caught between imported plagues and barbarous atrocities, typically resulting in the annihilation of 95 percent of their populations. What kind of people, he asks, do such horrendous things to others? His highly provocative answer: Christians. Digging deeply into ancient European and Christian attitudes toward sex, race, and war, he finds the cultural ground well prepared by the end of the Middle Ages for the centuries-long genocide campaign that Europeans and their descendants launched--and in places continue to wage--against the New World's original inhabitants. Advancing a thesis that is sure to create much controversy, Stannard contends that the perpetrators of the American Holocaust drew on the same ideological wellspring as did the later architects of the Nazi Holocaust. It is an ideology that remains dangerously alive today, he adds, and one that in recen 5
Omkar
01/04/2009 06:16:23
Avasha Christhava Vibhagham
If Christainity has anything to do with GOD, they should immediately stop converting Hindus. They should work in Islamic countries and convert Jihadis. There is no meaning in converting a Hindu to any other religion. Hiduism is the nearest religion to God and if God has a religion, that is Hinduism.No Indian is converted to Christainity because of the quality of that religion. Missionaries are exploiting poverty and illiteracy of poor Hindus. They use some tactics to convert Hindu girls by sending romeos.I find it very difficult to love a missionary. 5
NeverMind
01/04/2009 01:31:55
Change christianism. Heathens remain unconvinced.
Tired of Hindus being targeted with
-christian apologetics for christian terrorism
-muslim apologetics for islamic terrorism

It's always "this is not real christianism/islamism".Hence:
-jihadi attacks are "not islam".
-christian infiltration, subversion, appropriation and outright genocide are "not christianism".
Note that the heretic christians and borderline-kaffir muslims who make such excuses never have any effect on actual christianism/islamism with their words.

The 'word of the christian god' (bible) is unalterable. The #1 commandment of christians will forever remain "Thou shalt have no other Gods before me" (Old Testament). And to "Go forth" and missionise all nations (New T).

So until christianism/islamism itself is changed, the apologies/excuses made to us (the heathens) are wasted. Heretics DO NOT represent christianism. Nor do dissenting catholics have any authority which supercedes that of the pope; those who do not speak in line with the pope are transgressing catholicism ('papal infallibility' rule) and hence considered heretics by the Vatican. Christians who deviate from biblical commandments (particularly the fundamental 1st one) are condemned by the angry imaginary 'god' of the OT/NT. Such voices of contradiction represent ONLY themselves. Their apologetics merely perpetuates the deception Hindus labour under concerning christianism: "Look, what good christians. This then must be the 'true' christianism."
No.
-the apologetic voices are NOT considered christian by christian authorities. And
-true/only christianism is that which has been practiced by the churches since the beginning.
SAINT Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica, 1271: "Unbelievers deserve not only to be separated from the Church, but also... to be exterminated from the World by death."
Below are those revered and/or considered 'exemplary' christians (christian authorities find they represent christianism):
-Saints: freetruth.50webs.org/C1.htm
-Reformers: freetruth.50webs.org/C4a.htm 5
Ganesh
01/04/2009 01:02:19
counter conversion
I think the best way to fight this menace is by draining the funds for conversion. For this the hindu organisations must send thousands of decoys to get converted at a price,enjoy all the doles and largesse granted and within a couple of months these people must reconvert to Hindus.This will sow the seed of suspision in the minds of the proselytizers.By this Hindus can amass a lot of wealth and alleviate poverty too.This process must be made into a movement. 5
Roger Bannister
31/03/2009 20:42:24
Coercive Religious Conversion is Against GOD
Sister Prema, the foreign born Leader of the Christian Missionaries of charity in India has mistakenly stated that conversion is God's work. Her statement is false, misleading and intended for mental misdirection. If everybody has the right to believe in GOD, why should she indulge in coercive conversion? The Catholic Mission's goal is not God's work. Their objective is to convert maximum number of innocent people through deception to increase the Catholic vote Bank to promote imperialistic ideologies of the Vatican. Once converted through lure, deception and dishonesty, these poor converted people are abandoned. Once converted, missionaries abandon these people to continue their misery. There is no Catholic missionaries working to promote wealth, health or social status for the poor blacks in America, Philippines, Colombia, Peru or any other Christian countries. Once converted native people, they are left at the mercy of imperialistic forces. They become slaves, subservient and bonded laborers. Missionary goal is to cut off the spiritual, cultural and traditional roots and make them as zombies.
Roger 5
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