Jesus and Gayatri Mantra
15/09/2009 11:44:47  HK

No other Video can best explain how the Missionary Inculturation works.Watch this and decide for yourself. The person who loaded this in Youtube says- Gayatri Mantra by Deva Premal ! As if it's conceived by this Dev Premal! Further it also warns Licensed courtesy of White Swan Records To purchase the song go to : http://www.WhiteSwanRecords.com/ !! From where or whom this so called Deva Premal took the patent and copyright for Gayatri Mantra? The uploader is not even aware about the difference between a Song and a Mantra.

In India Missionaries are indulged in abuses and desecraion of Hindu Gods, and Vedic way of life to lure more naive into their desert religion at the same time in west Christian Missionaries need Vedic Yoga and Gayatri Mantra to retain the Western crowd within their clutches.

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sanjay
03/12/2011 03:01:03
:) This is what it actually means :)
I interpret this video as follows: Jesus the Christ, when he was crucified could not find his own salvation. He said prayed : "O! God! Why hast thou forsaken me??!!" Then god appeared and said, you can find your salvation only by chanting the Gayatri. Ardently Jesus started chanting it, and his subsequent resurrection was only because of Gayatri. Therefore in the video Christ is saying, "O! Christians!, realise the greatness of Hinduism, for therein lies the salvation of you all!!!" :)
Bipin Gaur
09/03/2011 00:01:13
What the hell is this
I just heard the rendition, I could not even watch the entire BS.
This is sung horribly and the images are also very inappropriate. Just because Hinduism is an extremely tolerant religion does not mean anyone has a right to demean it. 5
ThimmappaMS
26/11/2010 03:30:13
Gayathri Mantra
Both the pronunciation and rhyme is wrong and its effect/vibration may harm people who recite that way.Please follow the method of recitation prescribed by its original author : Vedas and the Rishis 5
Brokbi
10/06/2010 13:19:33
In respose
Deva Premal is a diciple of Osho, a Hindu Saint and he holds Satsangs regularly too. Please see the website provided.I have never heard of Deva Premal but if he is creating good music and Mantras let him. He is spearding the word of Hinduism isn't he? This video is Crap 5
hemjith
12/03/2010 09:48:20
Gayathri Mahayagam at Calicut
Lets know more about Gayathri Mantra.
Please become a part of Gayathri Mahayagam at calicut - from 7th to 12th April 2010

www.vediccongress.com 5
Ronald
04/12/2009 23:13:09
In Vedas every single thing was written and prejudged 1000's of yrs ago
i absolutely supports u dear.... when hindu civilization well established on the earth they dont even know what is meant by civilization....every single thing has been stolen from vedas... 5
Vijeesh CTK
13/11/2009 02:30:43
See this
Some bas***** mixed the video and audio. what balaji said is correct Deva Premal is a true vedic healer. you can listen the music online there in her site..
http://www.devapremalmiten.com/media_player/player.html

they ( invaders ) are putting effort to kill our religion.

I have seen a palli perunnal in tsr last month in TV in which they lined up 60 elephants with Yesu thidamb.. think about that folks.

Wake up hindus..
Bharat Mata ki Jai.. 5
Balaji
15/09/2009 09:50:35
Please watch this...
Hey friends, whatever be the case. Deva Premal, whose is quoted above doesn't have anything to do with this. She is a true Vedic healer, and not a fake Christian missionary. Somebody has taken her voice recording, added pictures of Jesus and cross, and uploaded in Youtube. Even several Hindus have assisted her in this. Please visit her website:-
http://www.devapremalmiten.com/index.php ...

Even if 100 Adharmis are left free, not even one Dharmi should be punished or accused. Hence please convey to the moderators of this site to take away her name.
Hare Krishna,
Balaji. 5
NeverMind
23/08/2009 01:20:01
Fix to typo
The reference to "700,000/800,000 Hindus" in the previous comment ought to be "700,000,000/800,000,000 (700 or 800 million) Hindus" of course. 5
NeverMind
22/08/2009 08:33:12
"Gopal" is very wrong: 4 impossible statements by "Gopal"
1. "No religion supports meat eating."
Islam only bans pork, other meat is allowed. Christianism, which appropriated the Old Testament from Judaism, didn't even hold to the Judaic laws governing food (Jews take only Kosher food). This means christians can eat lot more types of meat than Jews.
Also, carnival--a festival christians stole from the Greco-Roman religion--is (as its name indicates) a period during which the catholics abstain from meat, meaning that at *other* times they eat meat.

2. "When Jesus descended..."
JesusNeverExisted.com, as even ancient GrecoRomans regularly stated. E.g. the great & learned Pagan Roman Emperor Julian dared christians to produce documented evidence of jesus' and paul's existence (see comment of 04/08/2009 10:49:38 below). Every *other* semi-famous character in the Roman empire alive during the alleged jesus' time was well documented. The church later on had to FORGE references to jesus.

3. "In Bhavishya purana hints were given regarding the appearance of Mohd. prophet and Jesus"
No. The insertions of meaningless alien characters like jesus, mohd & Queen Victoria into this Purana are due to it having been edited until at least as recently as the 19th century. Even the generally-unreliable Wikipedia admits as much. It also shows that it's *muslims* who believe the Bhavishya "predicted" mohd. Yet they & Gopal seem to conveniently ignore that the same text aptly describes mohammed as a "demon" who starts a "ghoulish religion" and who'll be destroyed by Shiva (see Wiki).

4. "Most of the hindus don't believe in God. They support hindu Gods not because of love, but hatred towards other religions."
How could Gopal know about "most" Hindus? Has he seen into the minds of all 700,000/800,000 Hindus? NO. So he's just lying again.

Gopal can't be a Hindu: he defends adharma & spews lies about Most Hindus. But the HINDU God Guruvayoorappan (Krishna) upholds DHARMA & HINDUS from the adharmas of christianism & islamism and from lies. 5
Gopal
20/08/2009 13:02:23
Sanatana darma
Bhagavatham says "Dharmasthu sakshath bhagavat praneetam". Means religion is directly given by God, not human beings. You can trace the history of Christianity and Islam. Hardly both are 2000 years old. But a religion should start from the first day of creation of this world. Sanatana dharma in the form of vedas was given by God in the form of shruthi only. Then one can ask that why so many religions are existing in this world. The reason is you cannot teach higher mathematics to 5year old boy. So God or his representatives preach the dharma based on the purity of the followers. When Jesus descended people were living like animals. So, he told very simple things like "Though shall not kill" which our so called christian bothers never follow. In Bhavishya purana hints were given regarding the appearance of Mohd. prophet and Jesus. But whatever they taught was completely manipulated by their so called followers. They taught love and service, these people are filling hatred in the hearts of people. No religion supports meat eating. Go and sit for one hour in front of any slaughter house. You will be ashamed to be a part of this demoniac civilization, if you have any feelings left in your heart. But, by this time most of the hearts became lot harder by leading horrible sinful life. Most of the hindus don't believe in God. They support hindu Gods not because of love, but hatred towards other religions. First stop killing inocent animals and come to human platform. Then you can understad God. A meat eater can never understand God. Only Guruvayurappa can save this world. 5
NeverMind
04/08/2009 10:51:29
Why Revolutionary is a cryptochristian - 1/6
1. He goes on about the Vedas being revealed by some "God" he refers to as "Vedic God" and "GOD HIMSELF".

Hindus know that:
-Hindus' Divinity is not solely singular and not solely male. Hence: Hindu Gods incl. Goddesses. And these are addressed in the Vedas.
-all things Hindu--Vedas & other Hindu sacred literature, mantras & shlokas, Yoga, Bharatanatyam, carnatic music incl. the sacred ragaas--are inspired/derived from our Hindu Gods and take the reciter or practitioner to our Gods alone. They enable and assure communion with our Hindu Gods alone.

So any christian who cares about his christianism would do well to obey the 1st commandment of their biblical 'god' character: "Thou shalt have no other Gods before you". Any true christian would therefore NEVER involve themselves with text & practices that--no matter how the christian wants to view it--are solely derived from & concerned with Hindu Gods alone.

2. Revolutionary declares that some "GOD" character revealed the Vedas supposedly for "all humanity".

Note the use of the generalised words "God" and "humanity".
This is A COMMON CHRISTIAN TECHNIQUE FOR STEALING (=INCULTURATION): to first secularise fundamentally Hindu matter into "Indian" and "universal" from where it becomes easier for them to appropriate Hindu matter into christianism. And this is exactly what Revolutionary attempts later, with his plea that Vedas belongs to "everyone" and "therefore" also to christians. The next step is what they've tried on the Hindu Thiruvalluvar & Thirukkural: christianism first tried secularising them & now try to claim they're christian (newstodaynet.com/col.php?section=20&catid=29&id=8961 and haindavakeralam.com/HkPage.aspx?PAGEID=8810).

Similarly, by repeatedly using the general term "God", Revolutionary tries to secularise who's referred to in the Vedas. But it's no mere generic 'God' that is referred to (one that can later be appropriated as referring to jesus/biblical 'god'), but the named Hindu Gods of the Vedas. 5
NeverMind
04/08/2009 10:50:35
Why Revolutionary is a cryptochristian - 2/6
3. Revolutionary insidiously offers that Hindus accept jesus as one of ours so that "Conflict over My version of God and your version of God will wither away."

This is utterly false and impossible because, as described vividly in the bible, the character of the christian god is that of a bloodthirsty demon and has nothing to do with our wholesome Hindu Gods:

- In the OLD TESTAMENT the CHRISTIAN GOD repeatedly commands genocide of the unbelievers and PERSECUTES people and animals THROUGHOUT THEIR LIVES. See evilbible.com/Evil%20Bible%20Quotes.htm
- Then the NEW TESTAMENT INVENTS HELL, where the JESUS fiction (who the Trinitarian doctrine accepted by all christians today equates with the christian god) repeatedly THREATENS with ETERNAL DAMNATION AFTER DEATH. See Hellfire Jesus: usbible.com/Jesus/hellfire_jesus.htm

Mark Twain, Reflections on Religion: "Our Bible reveals to us the character of our god with minute and remorseless exactness. ...It is perhaps the most damnatory biography that exists in print anywhere.

In his Age of Reason (18th century), Thomas Paine, the Deist, friend of mankind and founding father of the US, said: "Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and torturous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness, with which more than half THE BIBLE is filled, it would be more consistent that we called it THE WORD OF A DEMON rather than the Word of God. It is a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind; and for my part, I sincerely detest it as I detest all that is cruel."
Paine's biography at cygnus-study.com/pagepaine.html


4. In order to claim legitimacy for jesus on equal footing, Revolutionary makes a typically christian and insupportable claim: "Certainly some of these (Hindu Gods) were initially alien to the previously existing Devas and Gods within Hinduism."
The Hindu Gods are always there. Sometimes they manifest in different forms at later times. That is our Gods' way. 5
NeverMind
04/08/2009 10:49:38
Why Revolutionary is a cryptochristian - 3/6
5. No Hindu who has bothered to inspect christianism could ever continue to speak about jesus as if this character existed. Because THE FACTS ARE THAT NONE OF JESUS, PAUL, AND THE APOSTLES EVER EXISTED. See the comments at haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?PageID=8801

And this had been repeatedly stated by the ancient GrecoRomans to the christians in their midst:
Pagan emperor Julian asked them to produce documented proof: "But if you can show me that one of these men (Jesus or Paul) is mentioned by the well-known writers of that time,--these events happened in the reign of Tiberius or Claudius,--then you may consider that I speak falsely about all matters." (Loeb Classical Library, Vo­lume III, pages 376-377)


6. Revolutionary asks "why not offer room in our home" to jesus as "the newest manifestation of Supreme Personality?"

This is a catholic offer: catholics in the South frequently try to get Hindus to include jesus as part of their Gods in their homes as a 1st step to conversion.

However:
- Jesus=the christian biblical god as per the christian Trinitarian doctrine
- The character of the biblical god is most evil, as seen in 3 above
- Jesus' character is even worse, as per the bible's New Testament: he threatens with ETERNAL punishment and torture (hell) for those who don't accept him
- Jesus as seen in 5 above does not even exist
- The only purpose jesus has ever served is as an Artifice For Aggression: christianism (=the idea of jesus) has genocided people the world over. Read SitaRam Goel's book hamsa.org/preface.htm

All the above are mutually exclusive with our Hindu Gods. The christian god/jesus/christianism have nothing to do with Hindu Dharma or the Hindu Gods.

There's no room for the ideology of terrorism ANYWHERE in the world. No room for the non-existent "Artifice for Aggression" that is jesus, whose very idea caused its followers to genocide the Native Americans, enslave Africans and destroy GrecoRoman religiocultural (Hellenistic) civilisation. 5
NeverMind
04/08/2009 10:47:48
Why Revolutionary is a cryptochristian - 4/6
7. Revolutionary makes a duplicitous appeal to "Vasudhaiva Kutumbukamam" to get Hindus to include the non-existent biblical fright 'jesus/god' into home & society

It's the old missionary plea: "accept jesus".

Hindus know well that the inclusiveness of "Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam" (the world is one family) is to be applied JUDICIOUSLY: the extent & limits of it are indicated in the Atharva Veda's Prithvi Suktam:

-"ON THE EARTH, were trained people sing and dance with expertise (they enhance the joy of the people), THERE ARE ALSO ENEMIES WHO, INCITING WAR AND BEATING THE BATTLE DRUMS, CAUSE SORROW AND SUFFERING.
BY REMOVING THESE HOSTILE FORCES, MAY THIS EARTH BE FREE OF ENEMIES.
12.1.41
-People who speak different languages, support different ways of thought, follow different beliefs and perform different duties, live on this earth. The earth embraces all these people as if they were members of one household.
Like the cow, docile and pacific while giving milk to nourish all the family members, may this earth nourish all its people with its resources.
12.1.45"

-While the Atharva Veda states: "Let us have concord with our own people, and concord with people who are strangers to us. Ashvins, create between us and the strangers a unity of hearts.
7.52.1"
-It also states: "May whatever I say be sweet and whatever I see be with good intent. May I be virtuous so that all may love me.
May I shine with the light of knowledge. May I be happy and successful in my work and finally, MAY I DESTROY THE ENEMIES WHO, LIKE FEROCIOUS ANIMALS, ATTACK US.
12.1.58"

Like no sane society would tolerate sociopaths or terrorists in its midst,
nor legitimise terrorist ideologies like nazism,
like a limb infected with gangreen is to be separated,
so too Hindu society will not accept terrorist ideologies, nor recognise any artifice for aggression such as jesus, amongst us. Nor do we allow its followers to insinuate themselves into our company to inculturate, subvert, and convert-or-destroy us. 5
NeverMind
04/08/2009 10:46:11
Why Revolutionary is a cryptochristian - 5/6
8. That Revolutionary is a cryptochristian doing jesuitry can be seen from his: "the concept of Polymorphic Monotheism in Hinduism"

a) Hindus do not practise monotheisms or "theisms" of ANY sort. Those are christian terms that are meaningless and are used to put Hindus & other non-christians/non-muslims into boxes for conversion.
HINDUS READ how the knowledgeable, traditional Greeks answer such sneaky leading christian dialogue (with which christians mean to trap Hindus and others):
ysee.gr/index-eng.php?type=english&f=faq#19

b) Of course only mathew--the other christian here--jumps on this statement by the crypto Revolutionary and writes: "'Polymorphic Monotheism', what a beautiful word to describe the concept that it is the same one god who is manifest in all things and in all forms!I am a firm believer in this. The form in which I conceive of God is only as legitimate as the forms that other humans worship him in"

The *christian*-invented false claim that Hindu Dharma is supposedly "Polymorphic Monotheism" allows mathew to
- declare his terrorist ideology and 'god' are now legitimate--"equally legitimate" to Hindu Dharma, its Gods and other natural religions of the world.
- claim christianism to be connected somehow to Hindu Dharma: that jesus/the biblical god of terror "is just another manifestation of Hindu Gods".

NO. Absolutely not. Hindus do not recognise that the christian conception of 'god' is legitimate or even true in any way. Hindus do not recognise any connection with christianism, whose
- ideology is untrue (jesus, paul, apostles don't exist)
- conception of 'god' is frightful (hellfire jesus, demonic character of biblical 'god')
- ideology is pure terrorism, having destroyed other traditional peoples and is determined to destroy us

At ysee.gr/index-eng.php?type=english&f=faq#21
the traditional Greeks differentiate between "The natural and existing Hellenic Gods" and "the unnatural and non-existent 'God' of the monotheists" (christianism, islam). 5
NeverMind
04/08/2009 01:59:24
Why Revolutionary is a cryptochristian - 6/6
9. The cryptochristian Revolutionary asks: "ARE GOD REVEALED MANTRAS, CONTAINED IN VEDAS, ONLY FOR HINDUS OR ARE THEY FOR THE ENTIRE HUMANITY"

Yes, for Hindus only.

Swami Devananda Saraswati: "It is a form plagiarism with an ulterior motive behind it, but hasn't the SC ruled that the Vedas belong to all of humanity? THE DAY WILL SOON COME WHEN HINDUS CANNOT CALL EVEN THEIR MOST SACRED SCRIPTURES THEIR OWN."

- Vedas are not of nor concerned with just "any" random 'god'. Vedas, Upanishads, Gita, various mantras & shlokas like Gayatri, all concern the Hindu God(s) and are for obtaining knowledge of & union with our Hindu Gods only. They have nothing to do with the non-existent 'god' of terrorist ideologies like christianism.
- Christians are FORBIDDEN from worshipping Hindu Gods in their very 1st commandment: the angry jealous biblical god character stipulates "Thou shalt have no other Gods before me".

And the term "Humanity" doesn't include terrorist ideologies that brainwash its converts into inculturating, lying, committing genocide against others and then doing apologetics for the same. We refuse to hear pleas for acceptance from followers of a terrorist ideology that destroyed Native Americans and others; followers who by their continued adherence to the terrorist ideology are made complicit in these well-documented & irrefutable crimes, showing that they will at any stage commit them again (which they regularly do, e.g. stealing Hindu material for the christian 'Indian' bible, and the christian murder of Swami Lakshmananda).

Hindu Dharma has nothing to do with christianism/islamism, the christian god/jesus/allah or its followers. No Hindu would ever argue that christians have equal rights on the contents of our sacred *Hindu* mantras or Vedas: christians aren't meant to recite them and hence will derive no benefit from it. Indian christians ought to revert to Hindu Dharma if they want to be reunited with their ancestral Hindu Gods by doing *Hindu* things. 5
EX-CHRISTIAN - NOW A PROUD HINDU FOR LIFE
29/07/2009 18:50:58
"REVOLUTIONARY" - XTIAN WOLF IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING!
@ revolutionary:

Your stupid "revolutionary" crap has been torn to shreds. Accept defeat gracefully and leave this site ASAP. There is no room here for wolves in sheep's clothing (while you are at it, tell your xtian missionary masters to watch out as well because we Hindus will not tolerate any more abrahamic crap ie you will be given a befitting reply! IF YOU SLAP US ONCE, WE WILL SLAP YOU TWICE WITH DOUBLE FORCE - WATCH OUT!) 5
Revolutionary
29/07/2009 06:49:21
Jesus and Gayatri Mantra
To all those who have reacted to what I wrote:

HINDU NATION needs many more of soldiers like you. I hope that you all will find a leader who will help you channel your energy ( which is currently manifested by anger and frustration), instead, through constructive, well planned, non violent means and your number will grow to a level that will stem the tide of onslaught that Hindu Dharma faces today. As you embark on your path remember the following:

yatra yogesvarah krsno
yatra partho dhanur-dharah
tatra srir vijayo bhutir
dhruva nitir matir mama. Gita 19:78

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Raj
28/07/2009 11:53:08
Why you want only Gayathri Mantra and Nilavilakku???Come and be a complete Hindu..
Dear So called "Revolutionary",

Whatever you say about brodmindness/vasudiva kudumbakam bla bla...it's crystal clear for even a 10 year old child, that this video is an attempt to BASTARDIZE the Gayathri Manthra which is given to mankind, long before your semitic God and his son's birth (born? not sure abt it). And to be truthful, World's problems and mass murders started with these two semitic religions..Christianity and Islam.
And both contains stolen concepts/articles from Hindu Vedas. No one is agains usage of Gayathri manthra by Christians..But the point here is the purpose of such a video..This is a shameless act similar to the Indian bible, recently published by some other Xian Crooks...And similar to spoiling Nilavilakku by putting a cross on top of it.(Nilavilakku is a Yantra which is prepared according to Parasurama samhita...You guys spoiled it by adding a disgusting Cross to it) Also similar to adding Shri before name of Yesu (haha..this was utter stupidity from church..Shri Yesu..when he become a Hindu?). Do you know what all these means? It's very clear.Just to put innocent hindus in to confusion, to increase conversion,to destabilize India (Nagaland,Tripura/Assam examples).Average Hindu is not organized, not united..But things won't be same everytime..When people realize things, then you guys has to run for your life...Just like what happend in Orissa..It will be too late dear..

Why you want only Gayathri Mantra and Nilavilakku???Why are you mixing it with Disgusting Semitic concepts????

Come and be a Hindu.(Not a "sickular Hindu"). We will welcome you with all heart.If you can't please stop stealing...and stop BARKING...PLEASE... 5
http://victimofprejudice.blogspot.com/
27/07/2009 19:33:00
Missionary Terrorists
Revolutionary Missionary,

You said..

"There is no doubt atrocities have been commited by Muslims and christians against Hindus,
There is no doubt lot of right minded people are very angry and upset about this,
There is no doubt something needs to be done"

SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE! The muslims behead missionary scums in Islamic countries. You mean something like that? Take your ilk and your third rate concept of God and fight amongst yourselves as it is going on since the time of crusades! 5
Shivq
27/07/2009 02:47:04
The bastardization of sacred Gayathri ma..
Yes, my friends, this is EXACTLY what has happened here. First of all sacred mantras like Gayathri CANNOT BE PUT INTO ANY MUSIC. They have their established meter of chanting, (the tones, swaras) which have to be PERFECT to get its true effect. Singing this as a song is akin to bastardization of this great and extremely powerful Vedic mantra. But these kinds of bastardization is rampant these days with many of our Hindu mantras.. WHY BECAUSE WE HINDUS REFUSE TO TAKE OWNERSHIP OF OUR CULTURE TO WHICH IT BELONGS IN THE FIRST PLACE. IF WE TREAT IT THE WAY IT HAS TO BE TREATED SUCH KINDS OF BLATANT MISUSE & HIJACKING WILL NOT TAKE PLACE.

WOULD THE AUTHOR OF THIS VIDEO DARE TO MAKE A SIMILAR VIDEO ON A KORANIC SURA....

SOFT TARGETS.. AREN'T WE HINDUS!!! 5
EX-CHRISTIAN - NOW A PROUD HINDU FOR LIFE
27/07/2009 10:20:31
'REVOLUTIONARY ' IS A DESPERATE CHRISTIAN - HIS ARGUMENT HOLDS NO WATER!
@ Revolutionary:

I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN IN ORDER TO DRIVE THIS INTO YOUR THICK SKULL. YOUR VIEW IS ONE SIDED - YOU HAVE COMPLETELY IGNORED THE FACT THAT THE XTIANS DO NOT RESPECT HINDU DHARMA AND THEY ALSO DO NOT ACCEPT THE HINDU CONCEPT OF GOD. THAT'S WHY IT IS STRANGE AND FISHY THAT THEY WOULD SUDDENDLY SHOW INTEREST IN A SACRED HINDU MANTRA LIKE GAYATRI. IT IS NOTHING BUT A VILE INCULTURATION TECHNIQUE. YOUR ARGUMENT HOLDS NO WATER.

THE XTIANS HAVE NO BUSINESS USING THE SACRED HINDU GAYATRI MANTRA BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO RESPECT FOR HINDU DHARMA AND SYMBOLISM. HINDU DHARMA AND SYMBOLISM DOES NOT MEAN ANYTHING TO THE XTIANS!!!!! THE USE OF THE SACRED HINDU GAYATRI MANTRA BY THE XTIANS IS JUST AN INCULTURATION TOOL FOR THEM TO ACHIEVE THEIR ULTERIOR MOTIVE, WHICH IS TO CONVERT EVERYONE TO THE NARROW CHRISTIAN DOGMA - NOTHING ELSE.

GITA SAYS "DHARMO RAKSHATI RAKSHITAH". PROTECT YOUR RELIGION AND THE RELIGION WILL PROTECT YOU.

COMMON SENSE DICTATES THAT ANY WEED THAT PREYS UPON THE HOST PLANT SHOULD BE CUT AND THROWN OUT IMMEDIATELY - NO MERCY SHOULD BE SHOWN FOR THE WEED. HINDUISM IS THE HOST PLANT - XTIANITY AND ISLAM ARE THE WEEDS. ROOT OUT THE WEEDS (XTIANITY & ISLAM) FOR THE SURVIVAL OF DHARMA (HINDUISM).

'REVOLUTIONARY' - YOU ARE A DISGUISED CHRISTIAN WHO IS DESPERATELY PEDDLING YOUR STUPID 'REVOLUTIONARY' CRAP AND TRYING TO JUSTIFY THE BLOOD SOAKED HISTORY OF THE XTIANS!!!! 'REVOLUTIONARY' - SHAME UPON YOU!!!!! YOU NEED TO TAKE A HIKE!!!! THE HINDUS ARE WAKING UP TO THE VILE INCULTURATION TACTICS OF THE XTIANS AND MUSLIMS. TAKE YOUR MEANINGLESS 'REVOLUTIONARY' NONSENSE AND SHOVE IT WHERE THE SUN DOESN'T SHINE!!!!! 5
EX-XHRISTIAN - NOW A PROUD HINDU FOR LIFE
27/07/2009 10:13:22
THOMAS MACCAULEY WAS AN IMPERIALISTIC RACIST BASTARD
Mr Matthew - Might I remind you that Thomas MacCauley's goal was to create a class of people who were "Indian in blood and colour, but English in taste, in opinions, in morals, and in intellect."
SPEAKS VOLUMES ABOUT THIS ROGUE AND HIS IMPERIALISTIC DESIGNS!!!!! The so called "educated Indians" of today are ALL victims of MacCaulayism!!!! 5
Revolutionary
27/07/2009 06:56:25
Jesus and Gayartri Mantra
There is no doubt atrocities have been commited by Muslims and christians against Hindus,
There is no doubt lot of right minded people are very angry and upset about this,
There is no doubt something needs to be done soon or Hindus will be reduced to a minority status in the only country they call home. There are lot of online forums available to discuss these very issues. There are lot of areas within our own religion that need to be reformed so that aliens can not take advantage of those.
BUT:
The current issue in this thread of discussion is this:
"ARE GOD REVEALED MANTRAS, CONTAINED IN VEDAS, ONLY FOR HINDUS OR ARE THEY FOR THE ENTIRE HUMANITY"
God gave us light of the sun to remove the darkness in the outer world. God gave us the light of knowledge in the Vedas to remove the darkness in our inner world. Vedas are SHRUTIS. They are not written by an individual. They are God given.
Just like we can not and we should not limit access to the God given light in the outside world to any one particular religion, similarly we can limit the God given light for the inner world, contained in Vedas, and revealed by GOD HIMSELF to members of any one particular religion.
I understand emotions run high when it comes to issue of conversions and atrocities committed by Christians and Muslims, and there are many other avenues available to discuss and address those. But we also need to discuss the universal application of our Vedic God revealed knowledge. Did God intend for this knowledge to be only for Hindus ?


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mathew
27/07/2009 06:37:44
Just a request...
Ex-Christian,

'I propose that we replace her old & ancient education system, her culture, for if the Indians think? that all that is foreign & English is good & greater than their own, they will lose their self esteem, their native culture & they will become what we want them a truly dominated nation.' - T Macauley

I was always intrigued by this quote which I have seen in many blogs. Can you tell me in which work of Macauley this quote originally appears? I mean the printed/ published source (not secondary sources where this is quoted) which I can verify. I have access to the complete writings of Macauley. I am not into any dispute, but wish to establish the authenticity of this quote, which I feel is not in consonance with the usual literary style of Macauley. 5
Shivq
27/07/2009 02:47:04
The bastardization of sacred Gayathri ma..
Yes, my friends, this is EXACTLY what has happened here. First of all sacred mantras like Gayathri CANNOT BE PUT INTO ANY MUSIC. They have their established meter of chanting, (the tones, swaras) which have to be PERFECT to get its true effect. Singing this as a song is akin to bastardization of this great and extremely powerful Vedic mantra. But these kinds of bastardization is rampant these days with many of our Hindu mantras.. WHY BECAUSE WE HINDUS REFUSE TO TAKE OWNERSHIP OF OUR CULTURE TO WHICH IT BELONGS IN THE FIRST PLACE. IF WE TREAT IT THE WAY IT HAS TO BE TREATED SUCH KINDS OF BLATANT MISUSE & HIJACKING WILL NOT TAKE PLACE.

WOULD THE AUTHOR OF THIS VIDEO DARE TO MAKE A SIMILAR VIDEO ON A KORANIC SURA....

SOFT TARGETS.. AREN'T WE HINDUS!!! 5
http://victimofprejudice.blogspot.com/
26/07/2009 19:40:38
Revolutionary and his promotion of Inculturation
Revolutionary,

Whom are you trying to fool? You think repeated assertions of lie will result in Truth?

Your blatant attempts to use Gayatri mantra to fool and convert Hindus to your intolerant fold called Christianity is deplorable. The more you talk the more it reveals how shameless a missionary terrorist can be when he is on mission hunting souls. If Vasudhaiva Kutumbukam is the objective why this business of hunting souls for Christ and such crap. Why kill and convert billions in the name of God for 2000 years. Read these links before you preach. These are coming from westerners who have abandoned Christianity after realizing how venomous it is...

2000 YEARS OF HELL ON EARTH
http://freetruth.50webs.org/A4a.htm

RECENT GENOCIDES
http://freetruth.50webs.org/D3.htm

ONGOING GENOCIDES
http://freetruth.50webs.org/D4a.htm

GREAT MINDS & RATIONAL WORDS
http://www.burningcross.net/crusades/famous-quotes-christianity.html 5
EX-CHRISTIAN - NOW A PROUD HINDU FOR LIFE
26/07/2009 16:15:47
'REVOLUTIONARY' IS A DESPERATE DISGUISED CHRISTIAN!!!!
@revolutionary:

"Millions of? innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, find, imprisoned: yet we have not advanced one inch towards humanity. What has been the effect of coercion?? To make one half of the world fools, and the other half hypocrites. To support error and roguery all over the earth."

— Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)

HOW TRUE!!!!!

'REVOLUTIONARY' IS A DISGUISED CHRISTIAN WHO IS DESPERATELY TRYING TO JUSTIFY THE BLOOD SOAKED HISTORY OF THE XTIANS!!!! 'REVOLUTIONARY' - SHAME UPON YOU!!!!! YOU NEED TO TAKE A HIKE!!!! THE HINDUS ARE WAKING UP TO THE VILE INCULTURATION TACTICS OF THE XTIANS AND MUSLIMS. TAKE YOUR MEANINGLESS 'REVOLUTIONARY' NONSENSE AND SHOVE IT WHERE THE SUN DOESN'T SHINE!!!!! 5
EX-CHRISTIAN - NOW A PROUD HINDU FOR LIFE
26/07/2009 15:48:57
XTIANS DON'T DESERVE GAYATRI MANTRA BECAUSE THEY DON'T RESPECT HINDUISM
@ revolutionary:

I disagree with you.

Its the British (filled with missionary zeal) who had absolutely no understanding of Hindu symbolism that falsely labeled the Vedic truths? as "myths"!!!!!!!To the imperialistic racists, everything "Hindu" was worth ridiculing and destroying.

RACIST, IMPERIALISTIC RASCAL THOMAS MCCAULEY WAS SIMPLY AMAZED AT THE GLORIOUS, RICH NATIVE VEDIC CULTURE. HE MADE A WICKED PLAN TO DESTROY THE VIBRANT CULTURE FROM THE ROOT. HERE'S WHAT THIS? SHAMELESS, EVIL MAN SAID in THE BRITISH PARLIAMENT in 1835:

' I propose that we replace her old & ancient education system, her culture, for if the Indians think? that all that is foreign & English is good & greater than their own, they will lose their self esteem, their native culture & they will become what we want them a truly dominated nation.' - T Macauley

THIS INCLUDED REDUCING THE GLORIOUS HAINDAVA FAITH TO MERE "MYTH" SO THAT THEY COULD SPREAD THEIR MEANINGLESS NARROW XTIAN DOGMA.

'Revolutionary' - You are making your statements from a purely Hindu viewpoint. "Vasudaiva Kutumbakam" does NOT MEAN ANYTHING TO THE XTIANS AND MUSLIMS. THEIR ONLY GOAL IS TO CONVERT EVERYONE BY HOOK OR CROOK TO THEIR NARROW MEANINGLESS DOGMA. THEY BEG AND BORROW FROM HINDU SCRIPTURES, TWIST, DISTORT FACTS AND THEN CLAIM THEM AS THEIR OWN "ORIGINAL" TEACHINGS (THEY REALIZE THE GREATNESS OF HINDUISM BUT HAVE TOO MUCH EGO TO ACCEPT/RESPECT IT.)

THE XTIANS HAVE NO BUSINESS USING THE SACRED HINDU GAYATRI MANTRA BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO RESPECT FOR HINDUISM. THEIR ULTERIOR MOTIVE IS TO CONVERT EVERYONE TO XTIANITY - NOTHING ELSE.

GITA SAYS "DHARMO RAKSHATI RAKSHITAH". PROTECT YOUR RELIGION AND THE RELIGION WILL PROTECT YOU.

COMMON SENSE DICTATES THAT ANY WEED THAT PREYS UPON THE HOST PLANT SHOULD BE CUT AND THROWN OUT IMMEDIATELY - NO MERCY SHOULD BE SHOWN FOR THE WEED. HINDUISM IS THE HOST PLANT - XTIANITY AND ISLAM ARE THE WEEDS. ROOT OUT THE WEEDS (XTIANITY & ISLAM) FOR THE SURVIVAL OF DHARMA (HINDUISM). 5
Revolutionary
26/07/2009 15:59:21
Jesus and gayatri Mantra
Dear HK,

seems like there is lot of interest in this topic. may I suggest that you move this item from "top stories" to your Special features section, so that it stays visible for longer period of time, otherwise it will get burried under newer news items. I think lot of people have a lot to say about it. 5
Revolutionary
26/07/2009 12:41:20
Jesus and Gayatru mantra
Christ did not tell any one to kill any one. Some fo the followers took it upon themselves to go out and kill members of other religions. Most Christians do not agree with that. Most christians do not agree with coercive and fraudulent conversions either. British were in India for 200 years they exploited India to the max but they did not engage in state sponsored conversion activity like their predecesors , the Muslim rulers did. The vedic philosophy belongs to the ENTIRE humanity. Any one who has faith in it can believe in it or practice it. If a Christian finds solace in Gayatri mantra we should not object to it. On the contrary we should encourage them and make it easier for them to utilize it for their upliftment. Just like yoga is being practiced by millions of non hindus around the world. We in fact encourage and feel proud that we can offer somethning to the world for their benefit. Vasudhaiv Kutumbakam can not be selective. Anyone in the entire VASUDHA ( The earth, creation) is my KUTUMBA ( family ). How can I deprive my FAMILY from benefitting from what the family has, such as Gayatri Mantra or any other Mantras. Seers and Rishis did not say that these Mantras are only for their sects within the Hindu religion. Now that members of more than one religion live in the same area, teachings and scriptures of all the religions should be available for any one to read, recite and put in practice in their lives. I would like the Christains who are reading this to come forward and comment on it. I am sure some of the fundamentalist Christian groups moniter what is written on this webisite. I would like to hear from them aboaut what I have said. 5
EX-CHRISTIAN - NOW A PROUD HINDU FOR LIFE
26/07/2009 11:24:49
REVOLUTIONRY - NO, THANKS! THE HINDUS DON'T NEED 'JESUS'
@revolutionary:

Hindus have never disrespected the teachings of any self-realized master. That's because Hinduism is inherently broadminded, open and noble. It's this broadmindedness of the Hindus that has been taken advantage of by the xtians and muslims. Don't you understand that xtianity and Islam preach 'EXCLUSIVITY' ie 'IT'S MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY' (Their narrow-mindedness and poor understanding stems from 'literally translating' every single line in their 'Books'. FYI, in the Gita (Ch 18 verse 66), Lord Krishna states "Abandon all varieties of religion and surrender unto Me. I shall deliver you from all sins. Do not fear." Has this ever resulted in the Hindus waging wars on other cultures and faiths? NO, because the Hindu's understanding is SOPHISTICATED. HE/SHE DOES NOT TRANSLATE LITERALLY.

'Revolutionary', you are conveniently forgetting that it is the narrow Christian dogma which claims that Jesus is the ONLY son of God and the ONLY way to "Heaven"! The Christian concept and understanding of 'heaven', 'hell', 'God' etc is at the kindergarten level ('God' in the Biblical religions is not all pervading. He is viewed as an angry, vindictive old man with a white beard who passes judgments.).

BTW, 'Jesus' and 'Allah' are political tools to subjugate other people, destroy cultures and exact imperialism. I'm in no mood to bow to this alien 'son of God', who has facilitated the destruction of numerous cultures around the globe, killing millions of innocent people.

My heart belongs to the glorious living Bhagvaan of the eternal, noble Dharmic Vedas.

Hinduism = PhD
Xtianity = Islam = Kindergarten 5
Deshabhakta
26/07/2009 11:59:27
Disgusting
This is so disgusting :@ :@ :@
they are 'using' the Gayantri Mantra :( 5
Vijayalakshmi
26/07/2009 09:52:40
Jesus and Gayatri Mantra
The whole world must know that Christianity is a bogus religion.The christists are demonising Hinduism and converting people by fraudulent means.They are welcome to the Hindu fold, but let them give due respect and credit to Hinduism.We cannot accept their pilfering our Vedas and Mantras with impunity. 5
mathew
26/07/2009 09:06:25
God is in everything..
Revolutionary,

"My question to any christian who is reading this ? Will you show the same tolerance towards the concept of Polymorphic Monotheism in Hinduism ?"

I am fully in agreement with what you wrote, and the spirit behind it. 'Polymorphic Monotheism', what a beautiful word to describe the concept that it is the same one god who is manifest in all things and in all forms!I am a firm believer in this. The form in which I conceive of God is only as legitimate as the forms that other humans worship him in.. 5
Balaji
26/07/2009 08:30:43
Shameless!
Anyone can use it? How disgusting! You don't want the Gods, but their mantras alone. In Tamil, there is a saying as "How come the child of the goat be a relative, if the Goat is an enemy?" They have already stolen so many so-called 'Aryan'words like Veda (Bible), Devan (Jesus), Abhisheka, Aradhana, and now mantras. The much repeated reference 'Karthar' for Jesus itself is a Sanskrit word! It occurs in the Vishnu Sahasranama.. "Kranam karanam kartha vikartha...". Definitely the hymn predates Christianity, hence Christians only have copied it. Where does the so-called Dravidian spirit go now? To eat shit?? 5
VoP
26/07/2009 07:01:13
Terrorism masquerading as 'religion'
"IF they are not trying to have him replace our concept of God"

They are doing exactly that.

Trying to replace Tolerance version of God for the whole of Humanity ( Hindu view ) with their perverted version intolerant God who will condemn people to hell if they don't believe him and his dogma. That is what has happened for past 2000 years in the name of Christ on 6 continents - billions slaughtered, their civilizations vanquished, their lands stolen, women raped, riches looted etc., It's a terrorist ideology masquerading as religion.

"Christianity is the most ridiculous, the most absurd and bloody religion that has ever infected the world." said Voltaire. He further said "Every sensible man, every honorable man, must hold the Christian sect in horror."

5
Sunil Nair
26/07/2009 06:53:22
my comments
for being a hindu you must accept the authority of 4 vedas, upanishads and githa.
Also you must understand that all the above mentioned clearly state that there is only one god and we all are the part of it. In other words there is no space for dvaita vada in Hinduism.
if christ is a manifestaion of supreme bhraman [true] you and me too
then why we worship somebody same and equal to us
The arugment you brought up is totaly unwanted in this topic and i seriouly doubt your intention.
5
Revolutionary
25/07/2009 16:43:13
jesus and gayatri mantra
Hindus have so many DEVAS of different statures and capabilities. There are so many divine personalities that exist within the fold of Hinduism without any conflict among themselves. Followers of each one feel theirs is the highest while at the same time respecting the others. This did not happen overnight. This integration took place over centuries. Certainly some of these were initially alien to the previously existing Devas and Gods within Hinduism. Christians do not call Jesus, God they just call him Son of God, His representative.IF they are not trying to have him replace our concept of God, why can't we make room for one more form or representative of God within the fold of greater Hinduism. The whole conflict over conversions will die down. Conflict over My version of God and your version of God will wither away. If we truly believe in Vasudhaiva Kutumbukamam, why not offer room in our home to this newest manifestation of Supreme Personality. My question to any christian who is reading this ? Will you show the same tolerance towards the concept of Polymorphic Monotheism in Hinduism ? Gayatri Mantra belongs to the whole humanity. Anyone with faith in it can sing it, belive in it or recite it. 5
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This cannibal, whose gruesome hunger
Spares neither women nor children"

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