Know your Enemies - Media Missionaries in India with the hope of harvesting 1 Billion souls
06/09/2012 08:10:25  




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Divya
16/09/2012 14:13:25
To Nemo
Let me make one more thing perfectly clear to you. I'm not offended by you :) or the things you write about me. You do have one thing 'wrong' about christians though. We do not 'need' anyone to organise and lead us into forbidden sites:).
There is only one threat to the 'unsaved' people of India and that is themselves because they are scared to ask real questions.
Divya
16/09/2012 14:06:27
To Nemo
People who come to this site and look at the articles and comments are intelligent people with integrity. They have a free will and they can make up their own minds. We both just put our thoughts on the table. Nothing more. Of course you and I want the listeners to agree with us but the game is all the more fun when the listeners have their OWN minds :)
Nemo
15/09/2012 10:33:17
HK please stop giving the Syrian christian "Divya" a plank to evangelise here
HK admin needs to recognise how the Syrian christian "Divya"--with the inculturating name, thereby actively continuing the stealth-war of christianism--is quite literally evangelising here.

Note that "native" christians are being groomed to go to Hindu sites to do christian PR and subtle evangelisation (note that "Divya" uses the same approach as missionaries use in the west for people who've left the fold).

HK's slowly becoming inundated with christians regularly invading it and advertising for christianism, all while they pretend that islam is the sole threat to the "unsaved" people of India. This despite christianism and islam both being the same terrorist ideology bent on converting the world.


Divya going on about "jesus", the popular delusion, and her "feelings" (blind faith) in the entity is most specifically a form of evangelism.

The FACTS remain:
1. www.jesusneverexisted.com
2. and, as church historians (like Karlheinz Deschner who wrote the 8 vol "Criminal History of Christianism") have revealed:
Since christianism's inception, the "true" christianism is very much the christianism experienced by its countless victims over time and across the world.

This is why emperor Julian stated that christianism is an *Evil* Lie: he, like others before and since him, have repeatedly identied the culprit as *christianism*/the jesus-gawd-bible concoction itself. Instead of blaming "some" christians (and thereby excusing the real criminal: christianism).

This shows the hollowness in Divya bringing up the strawman argument of "true" vs "false" christians. The problem to humanity was ever christianism=islam, which are the same terrorist ideology.
Divya
13/09/2012 00:27:18
Illogical statement
If I say - ' Our political leaders are corrupt. I do not believe in a democracy ' its not logical. If the so called churches like the 'vatican' is corrupt its coz they go AGAINST THE TEACHING OF JESUS CHRIST - NOT BECAUSE THEY FOLLOW IT.

The true universal church - that is faithful to Christ The redeemed sons and daughters of the Most High are a different matter altogether and they are not restricted by divisions and denominations. What unites them is their love for their Father and the desire to do His will. This church will make sure that the good news that gives life is preached to all nations because that is what the Father desires - To give men a new heart that desires Him.
Divya
12/09/2012 15:27:58
To Nemo


I do not think I gave you a full reply to your comments earlier.

You are completely right. I did speak for Christ and I started by saying that I was a Christian. So that fact was not hidden from anyone. I tried to give you a glimpse from the other side. Isn't that the reason why you have a comments box? to hear opinions that might not agree with yours? Of course I knew that everyone would not understand what I was talking about but my intention and motive was this. To tell you - each one here that a christian - one whose life has been transformed by faith in Christ cannot help but share the hope that is in him. Such a person will share it. What the listener does with it is upto the listener but the christian will share his faith. People might rise in revolt and burn a few houses or cut a few throats but the believer still has no other option but to share his faith. Its something that happens within a person. He cannot help himself once that change happens within him.

There have been instances in the past where people from various religions including 'christianity' - when practised just like any other religion without the transformation I talked about earlier, has used force and done horrible unspeakable cruel things in the name of their own religions - every single one of them - not one can be excluded and I grieve deeply for the unchristian things done by liars and imposters in the name of Christ but I'm not talking religion here. If I am I'm wasting my time. Its not even worth talking about. I'm talking about a good God who CARES whom I have tasted because of whom I'm taking the time to write a reply to you inspite of all that you wrote before. Thats the whole point. He cares and so I do. You clearly are angry and understandably so coz you have not gone through what I have. I would react the same way if I was in your position and I understand that. As a Christian it is my duty to give you an honest glimpse of my side of the story.
Sunil
11/09/2012 11:24:21
This is the first of 7 videos
Do see the remaining 6 parts (Impact India) on youtube !
Nemo
11/09/2012 06:00:36
HK please note: Syrian christist "divya" is engaged in proselytising on HK
1. The Syrian christian with the stolen Hindu name "Divya"--notice the inculturation on Hindu names--is engaged in proselytising here: 3 posts on affirming of christ, advertising for christianism and apologetics. Including the tired old "they weren't true christians" excuse, which has long been refuted. Note how this christian NON-apology is always of the form "the perpetrators of all these very christian crimes weren't *true* christians"--despite the perpetrators not only declaring they were extremely faithful christians, but the church moreover often sainting or promoting many of them for the very crimes in question. (But then, the vatican never even ex-communicated Hitler, who died a catholic.) Clearly Divvy isn't aware of "The Criminal History of Christianism" (in German, 8 volumes) by church historian Karlheinz Deschner, who stands unrefuted.

But the excuse/lie Divvy repeats is unlikely to find takers on a Hindu site, as Hindus have first-hand experience with christianism being identical to terrorism: between independence and 2004, christian terrorist outfits in India have *officially* genocided 50,000 Indians (as even a Yahoo international news report was forced to admit).

3. Why is Divvy, the Syrian christist attempting to peddle a known fraud: it was already revealed *repeatedly* by the ancient Romans themselves that jesus never existed.

E.g. as the very learned 4th century Roman Emperor Julian (himself an ex-christian) said in his works critiquing christianism:
+ "It is, I think, expedient to set forth to all mankind the reasons by which I was convinced that the fabrication of the Galilaeans [i.e. christians] is a fiction of men composed by wickedness."
+ "But if you can show me that one of these men [Jesus, Paul, Cornelius, Sergius Paulus, etc.] is mentioned by the well known writers of that time, -these events happened in the reign of Tiberius or Claudius-, then you may consider that I speak falsely about all matters." (Loeb's Translation)
Nemo
11/09/2012 03:55:20
Panicker on "people's faces". Quite as happens with first time junkies...
Cryptochristist Ganesh Panicker tried christian PR with: "However sorry this video is, the people being interviewed has a spark of joy and sincerity. This cannot be denied."

It's true. Many people high on (even hard) drugs are often seen looking euphoric, and many of them will sincerely swear joy too.
Indeed, this cannot be denied.

Must be why many American cultists talk about being "high" on the non-existent jesus. Neither or good for you, but they'll swear by it all the same.

And there's another analogy in there: between drugdealers and missionaries, both trying to peddle poison.
Divya
10/09/2012 05:15:18
Hari Krishnas
I have always wondered before and after becoming a christian. These are the questions we should be asking. Why am I here? I was not asked if I wanted to be born and I will not be asked if I want to stay here or how long I would like to remain here. All we know is 'We are here' and 'We will not stay here forever'. We really dont have a choice in any real sense. Do we?
I'm tempted to believe that our being 'here' has no consequence. Look at evolution for example. I mean If we are all created by that process then our creator would be a sadist to use such a wasteful and cruel method. It is more logical to believe in an atheistic evolution. We are just a product of time + matter + chance and our actions have no consequence whatsover. Justice, truth, courage , love has no value. They are just things constructed by humans to add some spice to this otherwise meaningless existence. Natural selection - survival of the fittest is a fact about nature. Its also a scientific fact that species have stark similarity. so evolution is logical from what we can see. Isn't it? or is it?
Divya
10/09/2012 04:49:06
Hari Krishnas
I am a Christian - one who accepted Christ IN SPITE of being born in a 'Syrian Christian' community. I perfectly understand the sentiments expressed here. Its natural. I would react the same way if I was on your side but once Christ becomes a reality in one's life the person cannot just help but share the good news. Whether the listener accepts or rejects it is entirely up to the listener. I'm aware with deep regret the pitfalls in Christian history - the crusades, witch burning, imperialism, slave trade. Those who engaged in these were not 'true Christians' but they have no excuse nonetheless when the whole of Europe at least professed Christianity at the time. I am also deeply angered by the 'greedy' evangelist whose motives are not 'Christian' - who has his eyes set on the wealth he can acquire through the gospel but I have to say with no regrets whatsoever that I commend a human soul who takes this Jewish gospel which is truly good news to the oppressed and gives him hope knowing very well that he would have his head chopped off in the process. Such a person does it not for his own sake but for the One he represents and the one to whom he hopes to give that hope. You wonder why the gospel is spreading especially among the down trodden in India, China, North Korea, Malaysia not to mention the dangerous middle east. I'll tell you why. When persecution abounds the church gets purified and only the last true category I mentioned earlier decides to open their mouths and when they do and die for it the good news becomes irresistable inspite of the impending death it would bring its believer.
Divya
10/09/2012 04:35:17
Hari Krishnas
One day I was stopped on the streets of Edinburgh by a ' Hari Krishna '. Eastern (by which I do not mean Judaism, Christianity and Islam )religions are sweeping through sceptic west with their ' transcendental bliss' and Christianity is 'LEAST' popular here but at the same time the gospel is spreading like wild fire everywhere except Europe.
Ganesh Panicker
09/09/2012 08:24:25
People's faces
However sorry this video is, the people being interviewed has a spark of joy and sincerity. This cannot be denied.
raj
09/09/2012 02:10:34
IPC 295A
rajan chinnadurai & GMTI is soon going to be taken to court for showing truncated indian map without jammu & kashmir & for booking him under IPC 295a for calling indians/hindus/idolators as enemies as shown in the above video.

already passed the info to subramanium swamy
vidya menon
08/09/2012 18:50:53
conversion
How terrible and criminal minded are these ignorant greedy people. How dare they destroy our religion and culture. Can we not upload this to you tube and make it unpopular with our youth adding some catchy headlines? Once our educated youth start disliking it on Facebook it may die a natural death. We collectively need to do something.
raj
08/09/2012 01:59:52
I feel sorry for the sheeple who will send their “faith seed” money, and go into debt themselves thinking it will bring money back to them. Only ones gaining anything is the Cerullos.

U.S. INSP’s David Cerullo Scrutinized for $2.5 Million Salary

http://www.charismanews.com/us/32995-insps-david-cerullo-scrutinized-for-25-million-salary

David Cerullo Builds Mansion While Ministry Suffers

http://slaughteringthesheep.wordpress.com/2009/07/03/david-cerullo-builds-mansion-while-ministry-suffers/

Omindian
07/09/2012 05:11:08
Christianity & Islam no more valid
When Science has already established that the universe is 13.7 billion years old (not 6000) and humans have evolved (not produced by Adam and Eve who was made by God), the two semitic religions have seen their end. It is only a matter of few more years for them. And candles burn well just before it ends forever.
Ravi
06/09/2012 09:29:10
Conspiracy
There is a word censorship and the government have removed censorship on t.v. which give them opportunity to start their cheating. I suspect UPA the entire group which is anti Hindu is decided to destroy us.
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