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A most dangerous move By Baba Ramdev towards Muslim appeasement
19/05/2012 11:18:16 Upananda Brahmachari

The whole media, a greater section of Arya Samaj, actually the whole Hindu Samaj in broader concept, Constitutional experts, true national politicians with some of intellect, everybody all on a sudden stuck with a severe blow from Baba Ramdev as he surprised concerned sections by supporting Muslims for their claim of reservation under Art. 341 of Indian constitution. Knowing nothing about the provisions, implication and jurisdiction of Art 341 and the conspiracy of Muslims demanding such a facility publicly and behind the scene, Baba declared his support for Muslims in this matter as Baba has set his eyes only to grab Muslim supports to make his success in 2014 election ventures.

When all are desperately waiting and preparing for the 3rd June, 2012 to drive a massive movement to bring back the black money, Baba Ramdevji, really surprised all patriots yesterday (on12/05/2012, Saturday) by supporting and by declaring that he is going to fight for Muslim and Christian Dalit Reservation with the amendments in article 341 of Indian Constitution. Baba was addressing a conference at the venue of India Muslim Cultural Center, New Delhi, as convened by All India United Muslim Morcha. This Morcha has definite connection with Kerala Muslim League and United Muslim Democratic Front, two dangerous Muslim Political outfit to destroy Indian Secular and Democratic threads in majority main stream.

Stepping away from the RSS stand, Yoga Guru Baba Ramdev supported Muslim leaders in their demand for reservation for both Muslim and Christian dalits and sought their active participation in his black money campaign. It is now heard that Baba Rambev will demand the rights of conversion by Christians and Muslims from Hindus soon under a pressure of Muslim-Christian lobby helping (eye-washing) Ramdev in his Anti Corruption movement.

“I did not know till recently that Article 341 does not cover Muslims and Christian Dalits. This is not fair. dalit is a dalit, whether s/he is a Hindu, Christian or a Muslim. So, all Dalits should get equal rights. We will have to struggle to achieve this. We will launch a struggle (for this). I extend my whole-hearted support,” he said.

Article 341 of Indian constitution of India is a PART of XVI dealing with SPECIAL PROVISIONS RELATING TO CERTAIN CLASSES. It starts with Article 330 and ends with Article 342. Actually, Muslims are now trying to get inserted in the Scheduled Caste ( Art. 341) and certainly they are not satisfied with their just Dalit status in Mandal Commission or Ranganath Mishra Commission or in Sachar Committee Reports. As the provisions of Dalits or OBC (Other Backward Classes) give only the reservation in jobs and various scholarships and loans/grants etc. to them, it never be counted synonymous to the rights of the SC and ST communities in the Hindu fold who get the seat reservation in the State Assemblies and the Parliament by the virtue of PART XVI of Indian Constitution. Now, this Muslim Morcha demands the Scheduled Caste Rights to grab the political power in every State Assembly and in the Indian Parliament with their reservation rights in Indian Polity through Art. 341 and they gradually will extend their demand upto Art.330. And Baba Ramedv preponderantly supported those who love Sharitat at the highest level than their life and treat Indian Constitution as a political tool to make ease to reach to the goal of Shariyat. It is must but should be clear for Revered Baba that the whole Hindu community may reject him for advocating Muslim rights than the reasonable responsibilities of Muslims in obeying Indian Constitution whole heartedly. Baba is advocating for those Muslim propagators who believe in Shariyat and desire to capture Delhi again through getting reservation facilities from the top of Indian Parliament (for ruling India again as Akbar, Sahajahan or Aurangjeeb) down to the Hindu families (for making Love jihad and so on). Those who have not full faith in Indian Constitution, how they claim full rights and reservation from it?

In Kerala, Andhra Pradesh and some other states in India, the Muslim and Christian OBCs are getting more facilities than the Hindu OBCs. And Muslims and Christian OBCs are gradually encroaching the facilities from the share of Hindus.

Baba Rambev succumb unnecessary pressure from Muslim pressure groups and equating a ‘Dead hand of Islam’, ‘Brute Muhammad’ or a ‘Satanic Verses – Quran’ with real Dharma (Virtue) and Darhshan (Philosophy) of Aryavarta-Bharat-Hindusthan. Does Baba Ramdev want to discard 14th chapter of Satyartha Prakash, where Swami Dyananda vehemently opposed the unreasonable, eccentric and unscientific Quran? Is Baba Ramdev is going to be another Swami Agnivesh?
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A copy of Quran (with translation in Hindi) was offered to Baba Ramdev. To Muslims Quran is the final words for everything. Will BaBa be kicked off as Jogendra Nath Mondal, the lone Hindu Minister in Pakistan?

Instead of plainly supporting or opposing Baba Ramdevji, we just wish to invite your attention to the questions asked by Mohini Puranik in the blog

http://hindutvamevavijayate.wordpress.com/2012/05/13/baba-ramdevjis-support-to-muslim-reservation-some-questions/

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Ram 26/05/2012 07:32:22	Baba I was one among his many supporters who watched him daily on astha. I understand Hindi very well. I was one of his fans who felt very proud of him and was extremely upset at the govt crackdown on his ramlila fast. HE MIGHT HAVE DONE SOMETHING FOR BHARAT. THAT DOES NOT GIVE HIM ANY RIGHT TO HARM MY MOTHER. NO ONE IS ENTITLED TO ANY CONSIDERATION WHEN IT COMES TO RASHTRA DHARAM. UNLESS HE BACKTRACKS UNEQUIVOCALLY FROM HIS MUSLIM RESERVATION DEMAND, HE IS AS PATRIOTIC AS AFZAL GURU. GOD KNOWS TOMORROW HE MIGHT SAY HIS SANYASADHARMA MAKES HIM SUPPORT SONIA GANDHI FOR PM POST BECAUSE HE BELIEVES IN VASUDHAIVA KUTAMBAKAM
Ram 26/05/2012 07:32:22	Baba I was one among his many supporters who watched him daily on astha. I understand Hindi very well. I was one of his fans who felt very proud of him and was extremely upset at the govt crackdown on his ramlila fast. HE MIGHT HAVE DONE SOMETHING FOR BHARAT. THAT DOES NOT GIVE HIM ANY RIGHT TO HARM MY MOTHER. NO ONE IS ENTITLED TO ANY CONSIDERATION WHEN IT COMES TO RASHTRA DHARAM. UNLESS HE BACKTRACKS UNEQUIVOCALLY FROM HIS MUSLIM RESERVATION DEMAND, HE IS AS PATRIOTIC AS AFZAL GURU. GOD KNOWS TOMORROW HE MIGHT SAY HIS SANYASADHARMA MAKES HIM SUPPORT SONIA GANDHI FOR PM POST BECAUSE HE BELIEVES IN VASUDHAIVA KUTAMBAKAM
K.M.Gopinath 25/05/2012 03:13:41	A most dangerous move Even his own companies are enmeshed in irregularities, how can he then blame others ? His espousing the bogus Dalit Muslim cause, is a stab on Hindu unity. Does he want to see the Dalits being partitioned between Islam and Christianity ? If he was a genuine well wisher of the Dalits, he should have condemned all conversion tactics of these two foreign religions.
Vijayalakshmi 23/05/2012 22:16:31	Baba Ramdev Many times I have heard Baba Ramdev say that the Govt must declare the 400lakh crores of black money stashed abroad as 'National Wealth of India', and if that money is brought back to India,India would be the richest country in the world and there would be no need for any reservations.He is performing his 'Rashtra dharma'.The least we can do is extend support to him and do our bit of Rashtra Dharma.Otherwise we will be indirectly helping the corrupt politicians.
Vijayalakshmi 23/05/2012 10:49:32	Baba Ramdev People who are accusing Baba Ramdev must also see his positive contributions and the popular support he enjoys, particularly among the rural people.Please watch Aastha TV daily from 5-7.30am and 8-9pm.His patriotism,earnestness and intelligence can be gauged then.Ofcourse,one must understand Hindi to fully understand everything he says, but see the huge crowds and their reactions, and you will understand what I mean.
skg 22/05/2012 19:14:24	Muslim community using Ram dev This is expected. Hindu organizations should exert pressure on Ram dev to stop his support for reservations to Jihadis. Reservations must go eventually in the country.
Ram 22/05/2012 01:19:05	reply to Vijayalakshmi Hindus do not owe any debt to this baba. If he is sincere but incompetent and therefore git easily tricked, let him vacate political space and get lost. It does not require immense intelligence to know that what he said amounts to negation of patriotism. If he still said and stands by that, let him get lost.
Raj Puducode 21/05/2012 10:39:49	Fake Ramdev alias Agnivesh This baba should confine himself to Yoga, Healthcare & spirituality. He should not try to get into political debate in favor of Semitic religions. His opinions over the years have been all over the place & never consistent. Unless he changes he will become another Swami Agnivesh, a charlatan in orange robe.
Vijayalakshmi 21/05/2012 07:05:06	Baba Ramdev Let us not be so harsh on Baba Ramdev, who I think was tricked into saying the things he did by the very same people who sent a mullah to put a skull-cap on Narendra Modi's head during one of his 'Sadbhavna' fasts!I am sure they invited him to this conference precisely(at the behest of the Con party) to make him unpopular among his followers.The Con party is jittery of the 3rd June fast,which Anna Hazare followers will also join.We know that the Italian leadership of the Con party is the fountain-head of all corruption,and that she is said to be the 4th richest person in the world!Baba Ramdev has been demanding that all the black money deposited in foreign Banks be declared as national Wealth of India, which the Con party mafia want to thwart by somehow discrediting him, the way they discredited some members of Team Anna.Please do not forget that nowadays it is crooked Christist brains which are at work in the Congress mafia!So let us not attach too much of importance to what Baba Ramdev is purported to have said.
GSK Menon 21/05/2012 02:51:37	A Most Dangerous Move This is the problem with Hindu Swamis, Gurus and Matas, once they start getting foreign money and white skinned devotees it is goodbye to Hinduism. Thereafter, these people bowing to foreign influence start praising foreign godmen, and start airing biased views about Hinduism. Baba Ramdev is displaying the same sympotms. How can there ever be a Dalit Muslim or Christian ? The eye wash of equality projected by these two desert religions is a mere ploy to get more converts into their fold and increase their demographic power. Dalits, even after conversion are ill treated by these foreign godmen followers. Will it be ever possible to have a Dalit Pope in Rome or a Dalit Imam in Mecca ? Simply impossible. Baba Ramdev may perform body circus efficiently but his intellectual capacity appears to be of a low calibre. What his mind could not achieve has been compensated by his body antics. He brought great discredit to all Yoga teachers by trying to escape as a lady. His sheer cowardice was a major embarassment to all Hindus. Let him confine himself to being a yoga teacher, politics is too much of an intellectual pursuit for him.
RGN 21/05/2012 00:53:13	Into Politics? Is Ramdev poised to enter into politics?
S C Mitra 20/05/2012 19:34:34	Babawalla Bejan Daruwalla has predicted this Baba as an spent force. Its coming true.
Raj Puducode 20/05/2012 16:51:21	Hindus lack mission, vision, unity & common sense Baba Ramdev claims a Dalit is firstly a Dalit, be he Christian or Muslim. This stupid Baba SWAMI ramdev became BABA Ramdev & says that Muslim or Christian Dalit are equal to Hindu Dalits . He forgets that the Dalits were converted in the first place to Islam & Christianity because these religions falsely promised equality, more opportunities for them away from Hinduism. For them Hindus are still heathens & kafirs. All reservations should be based on financial condition & not based on Religions.
Ram 19/05/2012 12:09:02	Swami to Baba The moment SWAMI ramdev became BABA ramdev, the metamorphosis from Hindu to SHINDU (secular hindu) is complete. Time for the valiant hindus to ignore this joker and move on. Let the charlatan go on with his antics. Looks like he is nothing more than a fortune seeker using yoga and ayurveda. Just a matter of time before he shares dias with the Dalit Italian.
cpr 19/05/2012 09:52:17	Baba Ramdev He has lost the credibility. Hindus should stop now supporting him, as he is no longer a savior of the Sanatana Dharma. He has been hijacked by the minority syndrome. God help us.
k.v.raghavan 19/05/2012 07:58:43	Out of fear The article has addressed all the relevant issues. The root cause is money and nothing else. Does Baba Ramdev calls himself a sanyasi? If so, he is not supposed to own a penny, then how to survive and do service? Please do not bother average Indian otherwise called as middle class Hindu, will support and see to it his movement become a success and achieve its goal. Then, the sanyasi need not have to afraid of tax demand notice on the trusts! My humble feeling is, out of fear only Baba Ramdev buckled under pressure. You see the case of Yeddy, he stooped to the lowest level of praising cong leaders. But what happened? Next day his residences were raided. Nobody believed Yeddy. The same thing will happen to Baba Ramdev. He should come out of his trusts if he is a sanyasi, and let the trust to run professionally, because the trust is doing service. He should not become a laughing stock like Nithyananda. No one, even Hindu outfits in TN are against Nithy. I do not say, he should not embrace muslims and x-ians. Like anybody they are also Indian citizens. But see to it a genuineness is maintained, and not to take flip flop decisions. He should think over one thing. If Sangh Parivar not supported his fast in Delhi last year, his movement would not have attracted this much attention. Be a real sanyasi. First live for your Hindu brethern, unite them, then embrace other religionists. Because, to take care of so called x-ians and Muslims, already lots and lots of politicians, bureaucrats, media houses are working over-time. No body for Hindus.Not even the BJP in many states.
Ravi 19/05/2012 07:47:08	Altaquiya..... May be Baba Ramdev is getting applause. But why the applause? He should remember about Al Taquiya, the famous policy of this community. Baba Ramdev ,at first got support from a sizable portion of Hindus. Now he is trying to lead them to destruction to make a minority community grow against his so called human justice (for one community alone?) He should remember that the community when grows will not tolerate even him. His Hindu followers should be careful.
athreya 19/05/2012 07:40:34	A most dangerous move By Baba Ramdev towards Muslim appeasement Every Hindu is being taken for a ride by such utterances. BJP has being doing it, recently we saw this Goa.Baba Ramdev is only dividing the Hindu support with such foolish acts.
athreya 19/05/2012 07:40:34	A most dangerous move By Baba Ramdev towards Muslim appeasement Every Hindu is being taken for a ride by such utterances. BJP has being doing it, recently we saw this Goa.Baba Ramdev is only dividing the Hindu support with such foolish acts.
S C Mitra 19/05/2012 07:12:37	Time has changed This Baba and all Hindu babas need to learnt history seriously along with their other subjects.We can imagine what sahus might have done under Mughal rule.
M. Diwakar 19/05/2012 06:51:55	baba "(A) dalit is a dalit, whether s/he is a Hindu, Christian or a Muslim. So, all Dalits should get equal rights." Excellent thesis. Similarly a human being is a human being, irrespective of whether he is a Hindu, Muslim or Christian, so why give the minorities special rights (minority rights)? This phony baba first entered into a deal with the Congress, then backed out fearing loss of image. The BJP and its plethora of so-called national leaders should be wary of such babas, who are merely driven by personal ambition.
New Generation Hindu 19/05/2012 06:37:25	Baba Ramdev I respect Ramdevji and his fights for the causes,but i can't support some of his policies-first it was his blind support for socialism economic policies and now it is being the appeasing policies.To engage Muslims,supporting cheap appeasing policies or praising which actually need to be reformed,isn't the way.It may be successful for short-term,but ultimately it will be big zero in result.That's why RSS is still there-they change also but according to the need of the hour but keeping the basic values intact.I want to ask him what is Muslim Dalit?If economic backwardness is the reason then they should first leave the Madrassas and take some modern education and accept the family-planning.That is truth and it have to be said again and again with patience and politeness-that's the way only if actually anything can be changed.
Mohini Puranik 19/05/2012 04:52:59	Request to remove the copied part of my article. Dear Editor Namate The questions raised here, are posted by me earlier on my blog Hindutvameva Vijayate and you have copied them and published here without my permission. This is against copyright laws. You must be aware that by default all the bloggers have copyrights of their material. I request you to remove the part which you have copied from my blog and otherwise I will have to consult lawyer. Don't steal others' talent in the name of Hindutva and patriotism, this cheap attitude will only defame Hindutva. Here is the link of my original Article. http://hindutvamevavijayate.wordpress.com/2012/05/13/baba-ramdevjis-support-to-muslim-reservation-some-questions/
seadog4227 19/05/2012 01:21:19	Baba Ramdev This has been the trend for quite a while: everything is the same and all are equal. Everyone knows that nothing could be further from the truth. This stance has evolved from various incidents and for various reasons: (1) Chief culprit: MK Gandhi and his selective equality (2) Deliberate falsification of the statements/ experiences of Ramakrishna Paramahamsa : Either at the behest of the Communists or due to the struggle for survival of the R K Mission in communist West Bengal, the writings or experiences of R K Paramahamsa were falsified to include mystical experiences with Christ etc (3) Latter day sadhus from India, such as Paramahamsa Yogananda actively used Christianity to promote Vedanta. (4) Large scale influx of western followers and , in some cases, installation of foreigners as heads of organizations , as in the case of SRF/ YSS and ISKCON has brought about promotion of Xtianity and , amazingly, aspects of Islam as well as a form of urbanized "broad-mindedness". (5) General confusion and ignorance of Hindu youth and deliberate falsification of history in India (6) Constant attacks/ misinformation by Xtian groups, pseudo-seculars, media and even Islamic groups. Very few remain who can authentically and authoritatively call a spade a spade.With Baba Ramdev and Rajiv Dixit this pro-Gandhian tilt towards Islam was noticeable a long time ago. The struggle is uphill but remember an ounce of truth dispels the falsehood of secularism in an instant.
The Truth 18/05/2012 18:32:16	Dalt - Ramdev Baba Ramdev claims a Dalit is firstly a Dalit, be he Christian or Muslim. The truth is that no Muslim or Christian Dalit sees Hindu Dalits as eaqual, because their religion teaches them that Hindus are heidens or kafirs. Besides, has ever any Muslim organisation fought for the rights of the Hindus? Then why, when so many poor Hindus are still discriminated, Baba Ramdev, instead of taking their cause, advocates the cause of the Muslims. Doesn't he realise: once a kafir, always a kafir? Always fit to be killed?
PS 18/05/2012 14:38:00	BRD open your eyes I consider myself a follower of BRD but he has lost credibility for these reckless comments. Does he want Rice Christians to have even more benefits and allurement- when will our sadhus wake up to dangers of these desert faiths. Sanatham dharma is under threat from our own sadhus. God help us.